LYING FOR JESUS TAKES ANOTHER TURN

I was blogging a guy on Quora and the conversation turned to slavery. I could not believe how indoctrination can actually change the meanings of these holly words for these poor suckers.

Deuteronomy 23:15-16

“You must not return an escaped slave to his master when he has run away to you. Indeed, he may live among you in any place he chooses, in whichever of your villages he prefers; you must not oppress him.”

THIS IS WHAT THE NICE CHRISTIAN FELLOW CLAIMS THESE PASSAGES MEAN

“In other words: if a slave ever leaves his master, the master is forbidden from getting that slave back. Each slave is as free to leave his master as a modern day employee is to walk out the doors of a bad work situation.”

If this does not suggest either where his mental state is or he is a poor comedian I don’t know what does.

“This command alone shatters any idea that the Bible tolerates human abuse in slavery. If a slave in Israel ever felt abused, he or she could simply walk away, and the master was forbidden by law to do anything to bring them back.”

“These two verses abolish every abuse of slavery — because any slave who feels abused can simply leave and be free.”

“I agree with you that slavery is cruel and horrible! God agrees with you too! It’s why He abolished it with these commands.”

“I’m pointing out that those who tried to use the Bible to justify those abuses did so against what the Bible actually teaches. They twisted its words to justify what they wanted to do anyway.”

“If Christian slave owners had followed the verse I quoted, instead of ignoring it, can you imagine how many lives would have been spared? How much abuse could have been stopped? How many families could have been reunited, or never separated in the first place?”

“Further, anywhere in Israel that slave goes, they are a free person. They can’t be arrested. They have to be let to live wherever they like and in whatever town they like. You don’t throw them in slums. You let them live wherever they want.”

“Can you see how many human rights these verses give to “slaves” in Israel? It gives them all the power!”

Holly hell, he is suggesting they had the vote, could join a union and were in charge.

“If a master treats a slave badly enough that they leave, the master has no power to get them back. None. He can’t chase them down. The law protects the “slave” in leaving, giving them every protection as a free person, now.”

“The power structure is the same as modern-day bosses and employees. If the boss mistreats workers badly enough that they leave, the boss has no legal power to get them back. The employee can leave and find employment anywhere else, can go live anywhere else. Just like a “slave” could do in Israel.”

How can you make up stuff like this? This guy is like the holocaust deniers.

“Thus, every incentive to abuse a slave was destroyed. If a master ever abused their slave, that slave can simply leave, take refuge literally anywhere else in the country, and they’re a free person.”

“This is what I meant before: if every Christian throughout the years had followed these verses, slavery could never have existed. You would instead have something resembling modern-day employment. That’s all that these verses allow.”

Of course when I presented the other verses about beating slaves he ignored what they actually said, totally.

“If you quote Exodus 21:20, at least you an accurate translation. The translation you used is old, based on a 400-year old translation that was made while slavery was legal. They had a bit of a vested interest in ignoring what the text actually said.”

“First, notice what it says: if a master kills a slave, the master is punished for taking human life. The master doesn’t get to abuse his slaves as they did in the American south. This is the only law code in the ancient world where the law punished the master for killing a slave — where the slave’s life was just as important as the master’s.”

“The Hebrew reads this way: “If the slave stands on two feet after a day or two, he shall not be avenged.” Standing on two feet refers to being completely healthy. In other words, the only wound that a master would not be punished for inflicting is one that disappeared before two days were up. I’ve given myself paper cuts that haven’t disappeared that quickly.”

Really? Paper cuts, oh you poor fool.

AND THIS

“Archaeology has done an amazing job of verifying the historical details of the Bible. Thousands upon thousands of details in the Bible have been confirmed by archaeology.”

“In short: the more we dig up, the greater our confidence in the accuracy of the Bible grows.”

“But we keep digging up earlier and earlier copies. Today, nearly every scholar agrees the Gospels were written during the lifetimes of the eye-witnesses to the events.”

I really do wonder what planet this type of deluded individual lives on. When I quoted a few of the major archaeologists he wanted to kill the conversation due to me “ignoring any evidence that contradicts your points,”

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GUESS WHO?

“Steve. You preach death. How’s that sound to ya? But, again, you would not get a point if it poked you in the belly. You scream incessantly about Christians “inflicting,” their beliefs on people, and did you ever notice that nobody is at YOUR place preaching? You preach death, Steve. May God have mercy on you. Oh wait…He already did. “While we were YET sinners.” That’s good stuff my friend. Whosoever….that’s good stuff. It all includes you, yet you flail away at it as if you actually think you can make believers go away. I suggest that if you want us to go away, that you go away. Take your atheist message of death and go cackle over it with the rest of the heathens. Atheism is stoopid. Empty, Void. Incoherent.”

If I could find something coherent and reasonable in amongst this Christians disturbed ravings I would reply to it. He has been a bit abusive and off the rails in the past, but this is beyond what I thought he was capable of.

If atheist views upset him this much I would bet he is praying like crazy to God to do a Gomorrah type of justice on us or on me at least….. “Howdy Satan”

DELUSIONAL COMEDY

Absorb this gem from a Christian who claims to be a comedian who put this into blog world. Thing is nothing is funny, not even a LOL…seriously.

No Handicapped Parking Without Religion

You’ve seen handicapped parking spaces, right?

They’re excellent!

So close to the door.

So convenient!

You’ve seen handicapped ramps too.

Those make it easy to for wheelchairs to navigate to the front door.

The front door opens automatically when you push the big blue button.

Access to public buildings is one thing civilization does to assist handicapped people.

This wouldn’t happen without religion.

Natural selection wouldn’t install ramps at the grocery store.

Survival of the fittest requires the weak to die off.

Access ramps mess-up evolutionary progress by allowing the weaker herd members to survive.

It is religion that says, “Take care of your neighbor.”

Religion says, “Do for the least of these.”

Religion says, “Let he who is without legs park the closest.”

Handicapped parking doesn’t happen when people do science.

It only happens when people do religion.

AN AFTERNOON DEFRIGHT

I had an experience of the third kind. An old woman aged about 60 ish knocked on my door late one afternoon on the 27 of August. She was pleasant and said she was conducting a survey and held onto a large pad and pen.

She said she was conducting a survey on the local community feeling’s and she mentioned she was conducting it for the church down the road with the aim of improving things. She proceeded to ask questions such as, what do I think would be the best way we could improve our overall lives, did I have a job, was I or any member of the family drug addicts or alcoholics, did I have money problems, personal problems etc. That appeared to not have much relevance to the community.

As she was reading from a standard type of lined writing pad rather than a survey type of question sheet I became a bit suspicious, however it soon became quite evident that she was using this questionnaire system as a cover to evangelise and recruit people for her church.

She fitted comments into the conversation such as the church was important, and that society needed the Christian God. Of course, my interest automatically peaked up, and she obviously did not realise who in hell she was talking too. As I realised her real intention, I took in a long deep breath and prepared myself for a Christopher Hitchens moment of retribution.

I was in no hurry, so during the first few minutes I invited her to preach by explaining I was not a religious person but it interested me and I asked the time worn and most relevant question an atheist can ask these poor indoctrinated dears, by suggesting I would be happy to convert if only she or someone could show me any real evidence of the existence of God.

We somehow got onto miracles of God, and I suggested miracles had never been proven and that they did not occur. She quickly whipped out her mobile phone and claimed she had witnessed a limb growing in length due to a healing session in her church and did I want to see it with my own eyes.

Of course, who would not want to see God suddenly growing a limb? The movie had a church priest kneeling in front of a person sitting in a chair who was supposed to have one leg shorter than the other, the priest had cradled both feet wearing a pair of shoes in his hands and one foot was shown to be about a half inch longer at the heal than the other. Sure enough, the priest said some subservient words to invoke the mighty one into action and of course he produced a miracle and the shoe soles equalled up as the leg grew within a few seconds in front of my eyes…. I was just flabbergasted.

I said to her that it is a trick, not a miracle, but she would not hear any of it by claiming she knew the short legged guy well and she had no doubt that he was honest because he was a Christian. Doh… of course why did I not think of that?

She changed the conversation by asking if any of my family members were religious. I told her my parents were English and originally classed themselves as Church of England. Well, she let loose with some righteous venom, claiming that they were not a real church with real love of God and merely another form of Catholicism. I then suggested that the Catholic Church should be permanently closed down due to their molesting priests problems and she enthusiastically agreed saying none would be saved and they would all go to hell. I also casually suggested that she should try to convert a couple of my Muslim neighbours when she gets the time.

I wanted to get back to the miracle part of things and I said to her, “why did God see fit to grow a mans leg a half inch in the rich country of Australia, while he sits back and allows 20,000 children to die every day in poor countries from starvation and disease as we speak?” This question I could see troubled her whirring mind and she blurted out something about none of them being Christian.

This was becoming more interesting by the second, so rubbing my hands together I said, “so your God is a selective God then, is he?” She then became more troubled and claimed it was the governments problems and that Christians should have but will get there and convert all these people. I could already smell the blood, so I just had to say, so therefore you Christians are at fault and your God is at fault for allowing other religions, therefore he made a huge cock up didn’t he and people are dying without his help, why did God make all these mistakes?”

My blanket bombing mission was a bit overwhelming for the old lady because her face wrinkled up and with her hands in front of her face (not sure if she was trying to ward me off with the crucifix fingers or the middle finger) but she started walking backwards between the van and car through the carport practically sobbing (I kid you not) that she did not want to hear me say things against her beloved God because she had a special relationship with God who she loved more than anything, and then she was gone.

This may sound a bit cruel of me to do this to an old lady who is probably younger than I am, however she did push her luck with the deception of a survey, I was not rude and did not abuse her, I only asked questions about her God. To react as she did suggests to me an advanced indoctrinated mental disorder gone beyond simple religious faith.

HOW THE MIND BOGGLES

I came across a comment on the “Live Science” website that had a story about UFO’s. One of the bloggers comments claimed personal experience and many encounters with ET’s because he had invited them to make contact

He says they do have bodies not made of flesh but typically energy or light and invisible is their natural state because they are interdimensional as are their ships. He also says, “ETs are already interacting with human beings on a personal level.”

He also states that just make the call yourself, “mentally prepare yourself and wish for it” and claims that “Many ETs are yearning for the invitation.”

He continued with a later comment that he had met some that were partially see through in a field, and that he had been aboard one of their space ships and cannot imagine they would harm anyone.

This does sound very familiar.

I believe that this guy’s belief is no more crazy or any different than any of the religious beliefs in an invisible sky resident and a life form called a God. In fact, this ET explanation sounds more viable to me than the God, but it is more likely these ET’s are exactly where this God resides, totally confined to the inside of a person’s head.

EVOLUTION IS CALLED A RELIGION BY CHRISTIAN NUTJOBS

There are flat earth young earth creationists, “believe it or not.” One of them wrote the following passage and based the belief of evolutionary religion on an atheist philosopher of science called Michael Ruse who had used the term and had obviously not read the Oxford or Cambridge dictionaries on the meaning of religion.

And yes, I know it is unbelievable, but these misguided people still do exist in our modern society corrupting our children’s minds and polluting the internet with anti- scientific rubbish, so they need to be exposed at all times. In fact, there is a bunch of them out there, some are openly flat earth believers but there are some that have actually accepted the fact the Earth is a sphere, however they all are young Earth Christians (YEC) who believe that Darwin is the anti-Christ or at the least was an anti-theist trying to destroy Christianity with lies and now they conspire that atheists are indoctrinating people with this evolutionary religion. Please stop laughing.

Of course, most rational, logical and truth seeking people and all the creditable scientists and even many of the more stable religious people understand that biological evolution has been the mainstay of biological science, medical knowledge and medicines for about a 150 years and in actual fact there is at least the same amount if not more evidence concerning biological evolution as there is evidence concerning the shape of the planet.

If you want to read the whole thing here, or you want to comment at the site. I must warn you however this administrator will delete your comments if his nose gets put out of joint with too many facts.

https://thei535project.wordpress.com/2018/07/15/4634/

“A similar situation exists today. Concerted efforts to indoctrinate people into believing evolution have been ongoing for decades. However, polls continually show that the majority of Americans believe in God, and believe that He created the Universe and life.

While that is good news, the promotion of evolution by many “important” people in our society likely has caused many of those polled either to doubt God, or be intimidated to the point that they are unwilling to stand firm for God.

This is the main reason it is important to realize that evolution is simply another false religion, and that the temptation people face when confronted with that religion is nothing new.”

God loves us all….EQUALLY ?

From an interesting article I read from a former 30 years long preacher he highlights the Fundamentalist Baptist women who will always be considered as second-class citizens. The article goes on to say women are seen as weaker and prone to being silly by the church and therefore will not be offered jobs such as teachers of adults or political leaders and cannot become preachers because just aren’t suited for such jobs and because God commands that women are subservient and loyal to their husbands and pastors.

Women should stick to womanly work such as cleaning, child rearing, nursery work and cooking. The Lord says women are to submit to their husbands as they would to God.

These demands are exactly the same conditions that God wants everyone to submit to him, with love, unwavering commitment and obedience. There is a firm hierarchy of subservience: starting with Jesus, the pastor and church leaders, the husband, wife, children, and finally the dog.

Adherence to your role is essential to not suffer God’s judgement and a marriage must line up with God’s wishes both in the Church and the home. For many women religious sufferance must be their personal hell and heaven would be getting out into the real world and away from these Christian values as far as possible. Religious customs are indoctrinated for so long, that men fail to recognise it as inequality.

In Colossians and Peter, the call for women to submit to their husbands and to stay silent in their shadow and a passage in Titus calls for a woman to not teach or preach in public assembly for that would constitute authority of a man. Do not forget also that some would believe Eve was the most guilty in the mythical Adam and Eve tale adding more weight to the suppression of women.

It is obvious that gods of these oppressive religions did not have any idea as to how social attitudes would evolve in much of the developed world or have any clue as to what discrimination and equality was. This fact alone suggests that none of these gods existed as wise, all-powerful and knowing gods, therefore logic says they were invented by man and the attributes awarded to the gods reflected the current ancient, superstitious and violent worlds.

I cannot understand why any woman would be part of these old-fashioned bigoted ideas, the violence against women and children, slavery etc. God was involved with and not see through this so-called righteous saviour of mankind, It just highlights the stupidity of the human race to support such a despicable invisible entity, not just the women but the men for believing and enforcing such hideous crap onto the women in this modern age.